Simplifying Life Through Technology

All Digitial: Juan Apraez

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On this episode of “Simplifying Life Through Technology,” Mark and Andrew sit down with Juan Apraez, Owner of All Digital Automation.

Juan's journey from installing satellite dishes on Alabama rooftops to creating some of the most sophisticated smart homes in Florida captures the remarkable evolution of residential technology over two decades. As CEO of All Digital, Juan brings a unique perspective on how cutting-edge solutions can genuinely enhance our living spaces when designed thoughtfully and executed flawlessly.

The conversation reveals fascinating technological advancements transforming luxury homes today. Juan describes mind-blowing lighting solutions using fixtures with apertures "the size of a dime" that deliver stunning effects while remaining nearly invisible to the eye. These systems utilize digital controls that daisy-chain together yet remain individually addressable, allowing for human-centric lighting that automatically follows natural sunlight patterns throughout the day—proven to improve sleep quality and overall wellbeing.

Perhaps most intriguing is Juan's specialty in creating automation systems for Orthodox Jewish homes, a niche that earned him recognition in the Wall Street Journal. These sophisticated systems download Hebrew calendars annually to automate everything from lighting to appliances according to religious observances like Shabbat. It's a perfect example of technology adapting to human needs rather than forcing users to adapt to technology.

The discussion turns to what truly matters in home technology: simplicity. As Juan emphasizes, "The whole goal of a complex system is that it needs to be easy to use." Despite the thousands of programming hours behind the scenes, clients only experience the keypads and interfaces they interact with daily. This philosophy guides how forward-thinking integrators approach projects, from pre-engraving keypads with intuitive labels to establishing consistent programming templates.

Looking ahead, Juan predicts that seamless video walls—currently found in commercial spaces—will eventually make their way into mainstream installations, following the path of flat-panel TVs that once cost tens of thousands but are now commonplace. These conversations offer a compelling glimpse into how today's high-end innovations become tomorrow's standards, constantly pushing the boundaries of what's possible in our living spaces.

Be sure to listen through to hear about the nationally recognized project that landed Juan the “Most Innovative Solutions of America” award—an incredible install that redefines what’s possible when design, automation, and user experience all come together. 

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Speaker 1:

So joining us in the podcast studio today we have Juan Aperez, CEO of All Digital Automation. Welcome, Juan, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for coming, Juan. You have no idea how Andrew has perfected the clapping yes. That right there. That little intro has gone, that's so great yeah, it's so much better than when we first started yeah, it used to be all post, yeah how many podcasts have you done? Already. Uh, we are, uh, we're in the 50s.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, some of the 50s so lots of them check them out guys. That's right. So juan and I've known each other for 10 years.

Speaker 3:

Yep, we've known each other for 10 years.

Speaker 2:

Juan owns a very similar type business to Sound Vision down in the Fort Lauderdale Florida area and is up visiting us here, and so we're very excited to have you. Juan, tell us how you got into this industry. Who the heck are you? Oh, wow.

Speaker 3:

How far do you want to go back?

Speaker 2:

Well, you know know, we only got about 20 minutes. Yes, whatever will fit in there.

Speaker 3:

so, in a nutshell, when I came from columbia um as a as a student, I um I started in the satellite industry, so that was my first interaction with technology, which back then was DirecTV and Dish Network, and that evolved over the years, after moving from three different locations to what it is today, a full-blown technology company.

Speaker 2:

And you actually moved originally. You moved to Alabama, is that right? That is correct, yeah, so that accent that you have right now is all from it tuscaloosa.

Speaker 3:

It's a colombian tuscaloosa, so, uh, yeah, so alabama and then georgia, atlanta and then fort lauderdale, so I've I've moved a few times very cool and you have a beautiful wife and a lovely son.

Speaker 2:

Yes, they are.

Speaker 3:

Tell us their names uh, maria and max maximiliano, and he is max is. How old is he? Seven?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I had it right. Very cool, so. So did you start um when you were in alabama? Is that when you started working with a satellite company?

Speaker 3:

yes, so all digital version, one or zero. Uh was a? Uh dealer of dish network and direct tv. Uh, and that's back in 2004. Were you actually putting up satellite dishes? I was. I have pictures of me putting dishes on people's roofs.

Speaker 2:

I have done the same thing.

Speaker 3:

So that was back in the 2004,. Which satellite TV was booming back then and it was a way for me to go to school at night and then work during the day. So that was sort of like a business while I was going to school.

Speaker 2:

It is crazy 2004. So we're talking 21 years ago. 21 years ago, yeah, that how everybody talks about things that have changed. But in 2004, direct TV basically ruled that. Yeah, I mean ruled the universe. As far as like television, yeah, you either had cable or you had direct TV, and in our little world, directv was 10 to one over cable, if not more, and now it almost doesn't exist to do a satellite dish anymore.

Speaker 1:

I mean Dish Network's still out there.

Speaker 2:

But even them is app-based. So a lot of changes, and that kind of falls into how your company's evolved over the last two decades. Because you're not doing satellite dishes now no, I'm not so let's talk about that a little bit.

Speaker 3:

That's not a uh, you know, feasible business anymore, that's right, but uh, yeah. So from that, uh in alabama, uh to us, people starting asking hey, can you, can you do? My flat panel TVs Sure Came out in what 2007?.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And then Bose, bose, lifestyle.

Speaker 2:

Systems.

Speaker 3:

So it was just a matter of getting into people's houses because of the satellite TV, satellite dishes, and then they're starting asking about technology. So my first interactions with surround sound, bose and all of that was back then because of the satellite TV. Right, that was sort of like how we started looking at other categories, and so that was during that time in Alabama and then we moved to Atlanta and then that's when I started with custom electronics. I started going to Cedia in that time frame that was 2012.

Speaker 2:

Cedia by the way for our listeners that don't know, that's a national trade convention that we go to, it's a Custom. Electronics Design and Installation Association.

Speaker 3:

Jinx Got it. So, and then I went to my first CD and I'm like, oh my God, I'm blown away. Yeah, I just walked in there and I've always loved technology, just dealing with things, electronics and fixing things. And then I went into CD and I'm like, oh my God, I'm blown away. This is what I want to do, and so I've always been passionate about technology.

Speaker 2:

So give the listeners an idea of what you're doing today.

Speaker 3:

So today we're doing we like to say that we are a three-part company we design, install and deploy and then service high-end custom electronic systems that include anything from the wiring all the way to racks, lighting systems, audio and video networking, everything, lighting systems, audio and video networking, everything. We're doing it all for very high-end, large projects in Fort Lauderdale, in the Fort Lauderdale area and one thing that's a little different for you than for us.

Speaker 2:

The listeners will know that we talk a lot about lighting on this podcast and we talk a lot about the design of lighting. And in Charlotte, North Carolina, we are, you know, we're a secondary, kind of a tertiary market. Uh, we, we trail in Chicago, New York, LA, Miami, uh, to some of the designs and one of them is the way you guys do lights and and the kind of give our, our listeners, of what is coming to Charlotte in the next couple of years, like what kind of lighting Charlotte in the next couple of years, what kind of lighting you're installing in some of these homes.

Speaker 3:

I think that human-centric lighting and then digital controls, it's what's some of the more popular requests and also I don't know if I can say any name brands.

Speaker 1:

Oh, absolutely, yeah, call them out.

Speaker 3:

So we are dealers for a brand called Apure or Apure, and I think they've been to Light Up a Looza by the way Another industry trade show yes been to uh light of palooza, by the way, uh, but they have industry trade show, yes, so they have these unique, um, very small aperture lights and when you say very small, I'm talking the size of a dime.

Speaker 2:

So like that small, yeah, so just to give an idea. The normal can light in again in charlotte is about six inches, yes, and we're talking about the aperture, the size of a dime, actually, I think it's even smaller than that.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so just to give you an idea.

Speaker 2:

Listeners of what we're talking about.

Speaker 3:

So, um, obviously, at this level, interior design is a big part of it, and so you have ceilings that are custom made, that are full painted, that are wood, and all of these lights, like we've used Apure the smallest one is the minus one light. We've used that in ceilings to do a star ceiling staggered pattern, and also wall lights for night lighting. So they're gorgeous, they're just beautiful. Different beam angles. They have, I think, about 1,100 lumens.

Speaker 2:

So incredibly bright.

Speaker 1:

Out of one of those little lights yeah.

Speaker 3:

Out of a dime and they work great. With the Lutron digital control system, which cuts down on the electrical installation, it saves a lot of money on the wiring sure, sure, and actually I do want to get into that.

Speaker 2:

And jason davis, hi, jason, you'll, you'll appreciate us. Uh, touting luchon here. Um, the, the, uh, I'm sorry, the lighting brand again. Uh, a pure, a pure. I was going to say aperture.

Speaker 3:

A-pure or a-pure, it depends.

Speaker 2:

And A-pure are those? Do they have trims or are they mud in?

Speaker 3:

They're mostly mud, yeah, mud in for the most part, but they do have some that have trims. They have track lighting. They have a beautiful system called I think it's called light flow, where you have the air conditioning, the linear diffuser, and then they have a track that matches that same design, and so you have a line in the ceiling and then you have lights. But it's the same, it's, it's, it's one continuous one continuous line and it's the ac plus lighting.

Speaker 3:

It's. That's crazy that it's. It's. It's one continuous, one, continuous line, and it's the ac plus lighting it's that's.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy that it's, it's beautiful and so very sleek, very very sleek, you know, um, very, um, um, well designed, uh and and beautiful, beautiful yeah. And just again to kind of clarify some of these terms mud in means that essentially fl, that essentially there's no trim on it, there's no surround, there's no ring, there's no nothing. You just see ceiling and a dot and ceiling and that's it. And these dots?

Speaker 3:

uh, they're. Basically you have to go to the light and stand right below it to see the light, Cause if you, if you're looking at it, To the light and stand right below it to see the light, because if you're looking at it from, say, off axis, you don't see anything.

Speaker 2:

It just looks like it's emanating out of the ceiling.

Speaker 3:

Yes, basically, yeah, it's like it's magic.

Speaker 2:

That's super cool, that's the kind of stuff that we certainly have access to in Charlotte, we certainly have access to in in Charlotte and this is being a bit um stereotypical but we're still, on average, more of a traditional type of design. There's certainly some Frank Lloyd Wright and there's certainly some contemporary, but more traditional than, say, a Miami, which is clearly more contemporary, uh and and. So, while this does really kind of fit in the contemporary style, it can be like you were talking about nightlights lighting upstairs outdoors near pools. There's so many applications for this kind of stuff and it dramatically changes Absolutely Everything, everything.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, lighting is one of those things that affect the design, the interior design of the space, and it changes a space, so it's so important, you know, to have proper lighting. All of these are low voltage, by the way, so all of these lights are 24 volts. Yeah so you're running to a driver and then, depending on the system you know. So we usually do Lutron, Palladium, Lutron Homeworks, Palladium or Control 4, and it's just seamless.

Speaker 2:

Now again for our listeners, and I said I wanted to get back to the Lutron thing, because there's actually a shift that is coming in not only the lights and the fixtures and the drivers, which is here, but there's also a shift coming in the topology of how that's actually wired. Yes, now, juan just talked about low voltage, which means it's it's not Romex, it's actually a like a category cable, something that's carrying less than 90 volts on it. These are 24. And and so you don't need high voltage wire literally at all. Class two technically for these. Class two, which which helps fire literally at all. Class two technically for these. Class two which which uh, helps uh fire much less because there's a lot less current going through what was voltage. And then there's also the. The actual wiring topology is different. You want to explain about?

Speaker 3:

that, yes. So, uh, with digital controls, dally, or uh, I think dmf came out with a new product that uses you know the frequency and the electrical line but you have less Romex going to your fixtures. You can wire up you know 60, 50, 60 lights on one breaker and then you can ID those lights individually. That is a huge selling point, because you can't do that with traditional lighting, right? So if, if you moved around the room and you set up a chair and you wanted that light for that chair, you couldn't do that without cutting up, you know, opening the ceiling and rewiring. With digital controls you can, it's just programming, yeah so.

Speaker 2:

So a traditional lighting controls? You can, it's just programming, yeah, so. So a traditional lighting topology would be it would come from the breaker panel, it would go to a switch in a room, a traditional switch. Then that switch would go to the load in the room. And if you had, now, if you had, let's say, four can lights in the ceiling, they may go from that switch to around, to all four can lights, but those four can lights are completely tied together. You could dim them, but you dim all of them, all of them, yeah, you know. Or you could color change them, but you color change all of them.

Speaker 2:

Um, or traditionally, just turn on and off. In this case, you literally are wiring from the panel to eat to one light and then it just goes around, yep, daisy chain, daisy chained. So from one to the next, to the next to the next, like Christmas lights, but each light is actually ID'd or identified as its own address. Yes, so you can, even though there's only one wire going around. The second light that's over that chair could be whatever you want it to be. It could be blue and the other light could be orange or whatever. That's just colors of intensities, different color temperatures, whatever you want yeah, so you have ketra.

Speaker 3:

That it's. That's a perfect example, for sure. Uh, the raw noise of lighting at this point, yeah, at this moment. And so, at digital controls, completely wireless communication. So what's happened is the, the dimming has moved from the panels to the housing inside the, you know, to the light, yeah, basically, and then that gives you the flexibility to do whatever you want after the fact, uh, and then with ketra, you have 16.7 million colors, uh, you can do whatever you know, whatever color you want.

Speaker 2:

You can do centric human, centric lighting, uh, or you can do um, rgbw, you can change colors and that human centric lighting we've talked about a lot over a number of podcasts, where you're literally following the course of the sun throughout the day. So in the, in the early mornings, you've got that dim, you're, you're waking up, uh, you know, traditionally the sun's coming up and you've got that, that sort of glow, and then as you get to the, the later morning, early afternoons, it's sun's higher. You got a higher color temperature, more blue, white, task lighting if you will work lighting and then as you go down through the day, you go back to that kind of warm candlelight glow. That's human centric lighting. These, these new systems can literally follow that. You don't have to do anything. Yes, they actually follow that throughout the day. So literally you could turn a light on at 8 am, turn the same light on at noon, the same light on at 3 and the same light on at 8 pm, and it's different every time. You turn it on absolutely because it follows the sun.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, if you have with lutron, it's called the natural show. So if the natural show is running, then it just happens automatically, automatically it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

It's amazing, yeah, and there's a lot of health benefits to that. Uh, there's a lot of stuff that that science has proven to be uh mood swings, uh depression type stuff just being healthier.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, especially at night when you're winding down. Yes, that's the reason your phone has a setting for that right.

Speaker 2:

That's right, right, that's right. Well, very cool. Now you actually you know what. I want to go off script a little bit because, uh, one is also the first person that we've had in here that has been featured in the wall street journal. So amazing. One has literally had a project. I mean, we've had projects in magazines that no one knows about, you know. So that's cool. One, um, has has been featured in something that everybody knows about.

Speaker 3:

Tell us about that okay, so thank you for that, uh, this. So when we first moved to florida, I knew nothing about the Jewish Orthodox community and I was hired to do a job a home automation job in a large residential home in Boca Raton and it was about I think it's about 9,000 square feet. I think it's about 9,000 square feet Technology throughout lighting, panelized lighting, wi-fi, audio video. The guy was really really interested, he loved technology and but he was like, well, I've given you the scope of how things are going to what I want, but here's the deal I'm Jewish Orthodox and the home must follow a very strict schedule. And then I started learning what that meant. I had no idea. So basically, his home was connected to the cloud to download a Hebrew calendar that changes every year and the home basically runs automatically. So all of the things that we do in this industry, plus A lot more.

Speaker 3:

Another layer of complexity, which is all the things that happen every every Friday, sabbath or Shabbos, like they call it through Saturday, saturday night. The home most have schedules for audio and video, for lighting, all of that, and not only that, but also holidays. So we it was a huge challenge not knowing anything about it and now that's sort of like our niche market. I've done multiple homes. Now we got got it down to where we have a menu, that's the shabos menu, with all these things that could be integrated into the home, starting with appliances we cut off appliances, warming drawers. Um ovens we do cut off. You know 240 volt for ovens. Uh, um lighting, obviously, audio and video lighting, and shades um garage doors, anything so. So the idea is that, or the rule with Jewish Orthodox if you're an Orthodox Jew, you cannot use electricity during certain times, during the Sabbath. During the Sabbath, but not only that, it could be a Monday and it's a holiday, so that holiday has to be in the system.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's why the calendar goes on Correct. Oh good yeah.

Speaker 3:

And you must have that updated every year, Otherwise it won't.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't happen on a Monday.

Speaker 3:

It happens on a Tuesday and the holiday was Monday. So the home has to be connected to the cloud or you have to download a yearly calendar and then that calendar fires all the different events that happen in the home. So we won a CD award for that, and then we were featured on the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 2:

You know, being Catholic my whole life, I grew up with a lot of Jewish friends. A lot of Jewish friends, but none of them were Orthodox that I knew of. So I didn't really know about this until fairly recently myself. I mean, I'd heard the term, but I didn't know what it meant. And I I've over time working in some of these homes. We get to see some pretty high end stuff and a lot of the high end appliances have actually a Sabbath mode they do.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Uh, you know, like a wolf or Viking. Uh, you know, thermidor, that kind of that kind of stuff, stuff, and I didn't know what that meant. But uh, it's a, it's a very very serious thing and the orthodox jewish community, uh, are very serious about the sap and and not working, because that's, that's what's. That's what's in the bible, that's what's in the torah, right yes so, um, this is really cool. And how did the wall street Journal exactly, I mean?

Speaker 2:

everything you talk about is amazing, but like how does that get to the Wall Street Journal?

Speaker 3:

I'm trying to remember, I think it was through Cedia, actually wow, really yeah, I believe it was through Cedia that they found that we won the award, for I think it was most innovative solution of the Americas, or something like that, 2017 or 2018. And they found out and then they called they reached out.

Speaker 2:

That's got to be an interesting phone call.

Speaker 3:

Oh my God. Yeah right, you hang up yeah whatever, you're not the Wall Street Journal, come on, what are you calling me for? And since you know, since that time we've had, uh, leads.

Speaker 3:

You know that just oh yeah, that's shocking, yeah that, uh, you know, came from there and uh, we're sort of we're sort of, um, that's sort of one of our specialties, you know, uh, the jewish Orthodox automated home, you can call it, and we know what to do. Now. We've, you know, have gathered a lot more information and now so we have a template, basically that's you know Orthodox ready, and it's just a number of things. I mean it's from appliances to AV to shade. It's pretty intensive.

Speaker 2:

One of the things that we picked up on as Andrew was going through and setting up our agenda here is the importance of being easy to use and how you deliver on that promise. So this is one aspect of it. I don't know that it necessarily falls under easy to use. I guess it does, because the home does it automatically. But maybe shifting a little bit into because this is very near and dear to our heart is trying to make things as easy as possible to use, make the automation help your lifestyle, not you have to conform to the automation. So how do you see that?

Speaker 3:

I think that's the biggest challenge in our industry, actually that 5%. You know the last piece of the puzzle. You build a huge, complex system and then, at the end of the day, the client knows the keypad, the remote and that's it right. That's the system to them. They're not looking at the 2 of the day. The client knows the keypad, the remote and that's it Right. That's the system to them. They're not looking at the 2,000 hours that you put in behind on of all the programming tweaks. And the last 5%. We think it's so important because if they can't use the system, I think the whole goal of a complex system is that it needs to be easy to use. It has to be so. Uh, whether it's a keypad with programming rather than the buttons for the, you know, for each lighting load, or a remote that's configured correctly based on their needs, it just needs to be easy to use.

Speaker 2:

That's the whole goal, you know we're so aligned in that I think that, unfortunately, our industry as a whole yeah has gotten a real bad rap of people, which I don't think.

Speaker 2:

I think it's best. It's well-intentioned, but people try to over automate things or kind of show off what they can do and then at the end of the day they leave the customer with how do I make things work? Or you know, like with, with with with. You know panelized lighting. You know you've got a button for like every light. Well, why the heck do you need that if you've got a button for every light?

Speaker 1:

That's not really automation.

Speaker 2:

That's just a fancier light switch. So I'm glad that you brought that up, because we talk about that last. You know, 5% to 2%. We call it done, but and done, done. We use it all the time Like is this job done?

Speaker 3:

well, it's done, but I gotta do this, this but I gotta do that, yeah, yeah, no, no, that's not done, it's done when it's done, done. Something we, um, we've been doing lately is being a little, a little bit more proactive with keypad engravings ahead of the game like way ahead. Yeah, we're doing a lot of people just kind of finish the job, uh, the client moves in and then they have 90. Keep, they have 500 buttons that are not engraved.

Speaker 3:

They don't know what's what yeah, and I've seen a lot of jobs, actually takeover jobs that they never. They just never made it back. They never came back back to engrave the buttons and I think that's part of why Lutron changed the policy on the keypads. If you don't put the engraving on there, you have to pay more down the line, because they know, they realize that that's a huge issue from that perspective of ease of use. You've got to have everything engraved, so we've. What we've been doing is just ahead of the game, like way before. When we're supposed to have the keypad, it's already has engraving and so that's. That's helped a lot.

Speaker 2:

We're going a little bit longer in this one, but I think it's. I think it's really good. I'm glad you brought that up. I do not remember I'm going to give you credit, I don't remember if we stole that idea from you or not, but we've been doing it for a couple of years and one of the things that we've actually taken it a few. Another step, I think and you probably do this as well we are actually engraving the keypads. We have five essential scenes that we do that are the most common call it the Pareto 8020. And we engrave all those that allows the inspectors when they're out there at the trim to actually like be able to use the system and know what it's and check it.

Speaker 2:

We actually take out a. We have a little kit that we take out to the job at the trim and we put it in. So it's a. It's got a little kit that we take out to the job at the trim and we put it in.

Speaker 2:

So it's a, it's got a little uh wifi router, and then the processor and we put that in there so that all the lights work, everything works, for the inspections. And then we we have a meeting with the customers. Before they move in, we go over, we tell them exactly how it's going to work. We have a spreadsheet on our on our whiteboard up here that that we uh, we show them and we go through how it's going to work. We have a spreadsheet on our whiteboard up here that we show them and we go through how everything's going to work and then, if they have any changes, maybe they don't want to call things cans.

Speaker 2:

They want to call them whatever words Waste sites, yeah, whatever. If they have a wording change or if they have a programming change and they say, oh, you know, we'd like to do this, maybe they've had this before, maybe they just have an idea to do this. Maybe they've had this before, maybe they just have an idea. We, we implement almost all of those changes at that point. The other thing it does is from an efficiency standpoint. When you go into install these, if you don't put in the engraved buttons, you literally install the key pads twice. Oh yeah, cause you're going out, you got to take those buttons out and put in the new ones. So this way it saves our guys time and they're in our customers' homes less, we're less intrusive on their time and the end result is so much better. Like you said, they know exactly what they're going to do when they walk in and it says good night. Like they get that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so, and we also started the keypads programming in-house.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, we do.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we take them already programmed yeah we do it as well and good to go. So we do it as well. It's just um so what?

Speaker 2:

we've talked a lot about lighting, which I love talking about I love lighting it gets a lot of love in this podcast. Yes, um, what other uh tech are you excited about now?

Speaker 3:

I think, um, uh, video walls seem to be something that's you know. I've seen lately that, uh, even theaters are getting video walls, which we didn't see that before. Um describe the price has come down on describe a video wall, a video wall, is a panel. It's a huge TV made up of smaller squares or panels, and you can customize it however you want, and so you can build beautiful displays, basically custom-made, whatever size you want.

Speaker 2:

Am I correct Because I'm saying this without any fact-checking, Andrew Am I correct that most of the jumbotrons in most places now are video walls?

Speaker 3:

I think so yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean if you go to any sporting event or if you go downtown somewhere for like an Alive After 5 and they've got a TV down there that's a video wall for like an alive after five and they've got a tv down there.

Speaker 3:

That's a video wall. They may have a different pitch. Is what? How you know how seamless it is? Right, based on the viewing distance, you know.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, it is a beautiful so yeah, so imagine a bunch of squares, uh of you know, I don't know what size, what are they?

Speaker 3:

they rain four by four, right, something like that.

Speaker 2:

So like a four by four square cabinet, and then they have squares going into those yeah, and you're literally like it's almost like plugging in legos, and you're just plugging these things in and you decide how big you want this thing to be, to to some degree, I mean you can't it's not infinite, but to some degree you decide on how big you want it to be, and and that is your television.

Speaker 3:

That is your television, and then you can do indoor or outdoor.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, and are these ones? Because I remember at CDS seeing I thought they were video walls where you can like they overlap some of the screens or are these just together like puzzles, like there's a one size here?

Speaker 3:

then there's a long a portrait here you can do that you can't you can't do that, okay, so that's more, that's more, uh, more of a commercial application, but you can do that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because they're squares, they're customizable and there's no bezel on these. So imagine, you know, back in the day we used to put tvs together and you would do a two inch gap. Yeah, yeah, you know, you had the little black like bezel on the left of one and the right of the other and those were butted up together. Even if it was perfect, you still saw that line in between. So you do that to get this big picture and we use this electronics and it would make it one picture yes but these have.

Speaker 2:

There's no seam, so when you put these together it just looks like a big tv, like you can't see where they butt up together at all.

Speaker 3:

Yeah yeah, depending on the pitch. So if you get a 0.7 or 0.9, you know it's almost seamless.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy From the view and distance. Yeah, yeah, from the view. I mean, if you stand right up to it, right, if you come up right up to it, you can see it, you'll see it, but when you're sitting down, you can't see it at all.

Speaker 3:

You know they and it's, but it's a video wall and you were talking about all in one right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you were talking about pricing coming down. So give it, give us, give our listeners, example of what that, what it looks like. Well, uh, a samsung 114 is like like 150 grand okay, so they're not for everybody, not for everybody, but that's you know we're, they're high-end, we're talking about 50-inch plasma TVs. Back when we come full circle.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how much were they $15,000, $20,000. $15,000, $20,000, $30,000. Right.

Speaker 2:

And now you're buying them at Costco for whatever, for $5.

Speaker 1:

$5.

Speaker 2:

Because then the big ones were 55 inches back then that. Because then the big ones were 55 inches back then that was huge back then. Now 55 inches don't even go in bedrooms anymore. No, that's like child's play now, right. So again, this is kind of the vision of what's coming. And what's nice about Juan is he is where he is and the clientele that he works with and the market that he's in is different than here. So you get to see some of that technology that either hasn't made its way here or, if it has made its way here, it's very infrequent.

Speaker 3:

Infrequent, it's not common, it's not an everyday thing, but it's coming. The ones that come out of the floor outdoor like for a pool area.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, the transformer. You've seen that?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah the transformer is pretty cool. Did you guys do one of those Well?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, the transformer. You've seen that. Oh yeah, the transformer is pretty cool. Did you guys do one of those? Well, something like that. Was it a transformer? Oh, you're working on one.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so that's a video wall with a lift, basically.

Speaker 2:

So the transformer is a yeah, imagine a big like metal box, huge metal box, and it goes in the in and you know it's an outdoor uh outdoor rated.

Speaker 3:

Uh yeah.

Speaker 2:

And literally the the the top of the box opens it and then this TV comes out like a transformer out of the ground out of the ground and it comes up and it's oh my gosh, it's unbelievable, it doesn't like unfold and everything too.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's some that do that. There's some that do that big.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, that's crazy. Well, we have gone on a little while.

Speaker 1:

Well, before we wrap up, we'd like to end on kind of a more fun note. Let's get into music, let's get into music. We like to kind of gauge what everyone's music taste is, so who one?

Speaker 3:

is your favorite band, you're not gonna pull up mark anthony are you maybe, but I've got mine is interesting because you know I grew up grew up in the the 80s, 90s, really you didn't grow up in the 80s. I grew up in the 90s.

Speaker 2:

You don't have any gray. You didn't grow up in the 80s. I was born in 1980. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

But you could say 90s, but I loved the music. You guys listen to, you guys. You guys who do you agree with?

Speaker 2:

That was directly to you.

Speaker 3:

Mark, tell me about the music we listen to. So, besides the Colombian salsa music and all of that, I don't know, I like the Stones.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's not from you, and they were popular in the 80s but they're not an 80s band Billy Idol.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Aerosmith.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, also not really an 80s band. Yeah, I don't know Aerosmith.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, also not really an 80s band. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that? 70s?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean yeah, 70, the 80s. They actually had like Angel, I think is their most popular song and that was in the 80s, but I think they identify as a 70s band. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then I have colombia, you know grupo niche and stuff like that, which is more salsa music. But it sounds really good when you say that again grupo niche, yeah, yes that was a little dance little dance yeah well, this has been awesome.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, shakira, those hips don't lie well, this has been awesome.

Speaker 1:

We should invite Shakira to the podcast please, shakira, if you're out there and listening, you are welcome you're welcome in.

Speaker 2:

Yes, this has been great thank you so much guys very, very long time and you are incredibly talented and really literally do amazing work. So thanks for the friendship over the years. Thanks for coming to see us and really literally do amazing work. So thanks for the friendship over the years.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, buddy.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for coming to see us.

Speaker 1:

Real quick. Yes, if any of our listeners wanted to get in contact with you or learn more about your company, how can they do so?

Speaker 3:

So they can reach me at sales at alldigitalonlinecom or alldigitalonlinecom in the Sunrise Fort Laudcom, and you know the sunrise Fort Lauderdale area.

Speaker 2:

What about socials? Are you?

Speaker 3:

on Instagram. Instagram at all digital automation. So okay, I don't know my Facebook Type in all digital.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we'll get it in there.

Speaker 3:

All digital automation. Instagram seems to be the one.

Speaker 1:

Yes, absolutely so awesome. Well, thanks again for joining us. Thank you so much.

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