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Simplifying Life Through Technology
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Simplifying Life Through Technology
IFP Connect: Eric Crawford
On this episode of “Simplifying Life Through Technology,” Mark, Michelle, and Andrew sit down with Eric Crawford, President of IFP Connect.
As Founder of IFP Connect and former smart home integrator, Eric joins us to explore why fiber is redefining the backbone of modern home technology. As homes today average over 150 connected devices — from smart TVs to irrigation systems — traditional cabling can no longer keep up.
Eric breaks down the limitations of category cable, which sees spec changes roughly every 20 months, versus the long-term stability and bandwidth capacity of fiber infrastructure. We discuss how fiber not only supports today's needs, but anticipates tomorrow’s — from true 4K content delivery to the growing demand for wireless access points that still rely on wired backbones.
IFP Connect’s patented fiber-to-copper platform offers integrators and builders a smarter, faster, and more efficient installation process — all while setting up clients with a future-proof network foundation. Whether you're building new, planning a renovation, or simply want to understand where residential tech is headed, this conversation offers eye-opening insight into why fiber isn’t just an upgrade — it’s a necessity.
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So joining us in the podcast room today we have Eric Crawford, president of IFP Connect. Welcome, eric.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, it's great to be here, it's great to be in North Carolina. I think I timed it very well, because your weather has been beautiful, it's been sunny, it's been warm, it's a yeah, this is about the last week.
Speaker 3:We're going to. We will turn to hot and humid. We turned to pollen two weeks ago and now we are.
Speaker 1:Oh, and that's been taking over all of us.
Speaker 3:So, eric, eric and I have known each other for many, many years, uh and, and Eric used to be an integrator out in the great state of Idaho, so maybe give us a high level of your history there. And then, what the heck is IFP?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the attempted short version of my background was that I used to work in manufacturing and process engineering in Seattle where basically what that means is I was involved in optimizing manufacturing things so figuring out how to make them better, faster, stronger, that kind of stuff and deliver a better product for the customer. Um, I wanted to get out of the Seattle area and discovered Boise, loved it Always, kind of just had a thing for audio and video stuff, did it when I was, you know, 14, 15 years old. I bought my first two channel system back when Kenwood existed.
Speaker 3:Um, I was a Kenwood rep.
Speaker 2:I'm very familiar oh yeah, and so bought that from a, from a big chain up in the Seattle area and Magnolia.
Speaker 1:It was.
Speaker 2:Yep, yeah, that was a. That was a different time in the audio video world, for sure that was.
Speaker 2:So started doing some audio video stuff on the side in Seattle. Really loved it and was looking for a different place to live. So moved to Boise in 2005, ended 2005 and started the Loop in 2006 to really focus on delivering a service-based smart home experience. So not so much trying to be the stereo guy but more to try and be a technical consultant to help people really understand what technology was and how it could interact in their home. Oh, that's okay, so that's a little different, a little different angle than we.
Speaker 3:We hear a lot Like. I was a stereo guy too, and I got into it and be the stereo guy. You did not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for me it was that when I saw and part of it was because of the regulation idaho, because there isn't any um, the barrier to entry is 35 to the state of idaho and that's oh for like a business license for a business 35 bucks. 35 bucks, if you want to wire a five million dollar house, you want to do a 10 000 square foot something, you want to do a duplex, a triplex 35 bucks, wow, yeah. And so the?
Speaker 3:still today still today?
Speaker 2:no, no inspections, nothing, no permitting. No inspections, oh my no oversight yeah, yeah, and so um, it's.
Speaker 2:There's a whole nother story there about that side of it, something we're going to be going through a little bit through ifp, but, um, so because of that, the barrier to entry for audio video is insanely low. So to try and start a business in that sphere is you're competing against the absolute, um, least skilled individual. Whereas if I thought, if I come in from the tech side of being understand technology with my background and complex systems and getting different things to work together, it was something where I felt I could succeed and so started that and then grew that, got into. We started doing PDK access control, security surveillance, obviously, remote monitoring, control for smart home systems and video distribution and all that kind of stuff, and you had it for 15 years right sold it.
Speaker 2:Sold it after 17 17 years, so that's right, yeah, if I'm yeah, 17 years, very nice. Yeah, sold it in january of 2023. Um, and basically what was going on was that around 2020, we did a big commercial product or I shouldn't say big, we did a light office commercial project but the client had four port uh, four port plates in four locations, in every office.
Speaker 2:So we had 16 pieces of cat, six into every single office and there was like 20 some offices that's a lot of wire if you're not good at math yeah, well, and, and it's the thing is, it's not just a lot of wire, but you have to take that number, multiply it by 16, because you have eight conductors on each piece of category cable. So now you actually have 16 individual wires per wire.
Speaker 2:That you're per cable, yeah, so it just becomes this huge mess and just trying to sort out, you know, one guy labels one north, one guy labels the other one south, this one's two, this one's a and I looked and I said there's got to be a better way to do this. And so I talked to a couple of fiber companies out there and they're like we can sell you fiber, but anything more than that. You got to buy these things, you screw them to the wall, you take this cord coming outside of it, you plug it into an outlet nearby. And I was like no, no, clients will not accept that. That's not an acceptable way to build a network. And so 2020 started the IFP side of really going. Okay, how do we build something by integrators for integrators to make their lives easier?
Speaker 3:And the acronym IFP stands for.
Speaker 2:Integrated Fiber Platform.
Speaker 3:Integrated Fiber Platform. Okay, continue so you're trying to help us out, make us better and more efficient.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I saw our company and the couple of constraints and a couple of problems that were difficult for us was the amount of labor required on a pre-wire, because it's this huge bump of labor, and you kind of pull a bunch of pre-wire because it's this huge bump of labor and you kind of pull a bunch of resources in and then you have this huge bump at trim and so you have these two big peaks that you're trying to manage while managing technicians on 30 other jobs. And so that, combined with the complexity, the limitations of category cable, the fact it's built on, you know, 1985 technology, I was like there's got to be a better way here, and so that started. You know, basically, looking at the fiber technology that was already out there, and this is kind of one of those things most people don't know until they really start hearing more about IFP is that we are actually not doing anything new. Our design, what we're actually doing in regard to the fiber side of things, has been around for 20, 30 years.
Speaker 3:Now, normally Michelle chimes in here and asks this question, but she's conspicuously quiet today.
Speaker 4:I don't know why I'm in this room. Between the two of you I'm not going to get a word in. Are you saying that?
Speaker 2:I talk. I was saying the TV can hold court Okay.
Speaker 3:For our customer base. A lot of them aren't even sure, like, what fiber is. They may have heard about it, they know that there's, you know, some services now for faster internet speed, but kind of they may be going like why on earth would we have fiber in a house? Like what purpose is that? So maybe come back up a little bit and explain kind of the basics for the reason of why it's needed.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, and remember it's coming from integrators. So the real thing we were trying to address with the launch of IFP was to address a couple of the issues that integrators face, one being labor. So how can we save labor? And if we can take that labor and basically save a bunch of labor, have a slightly higher hardware cost but drastically reduce our labor and potentially reduce the overall cost of the project, that's a win for all parties. The advantage to the business owner, the homeowner that's getting an IFP system, is that now that cabling that's in the walls is 100% future-proofed because fiber supports any speed to come. I mean they're well up into like thousands of petabit speeds. It's insane.
Speaker 4:Can you just touch on future-proofing and what that means as a general term for? A homeowner who's not familiar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I would describe it, you know, for the homeowners out there, something like you know, you don't worry about future proofing your TV purchase because it's obviously pretty easy to take a TV off the wall and put a new one up and integrate it in the system. But the cabling that goes in your walls, especially when you start looking at either slab on grade homes, multi-story blowing, or you know, the urethane insulation, yeah, all these other things now, all of a sudden, if you want to rewire that building, I mean, the cost is insurmountable. And the crazy part is that if you look, since category cable was invented, it's basically changed.
Speaker 3:Every 20 months there's a new version and just to give people out there an idea, when you had phone wire, it used to be called pots, plain old telephone system, and that was the four wire that you would get back when we were kids. That is a category cable, yeah. And so now what we're in, cat seven or eight or whatever we're at now. But yeah, but that's where it started.
Speaker 2:So yeah well, and most people don't know that at the actual spec of category cable it's no faster now than it was back with the cat five E and cat six. So even though we're into these like cat sevens and cat eights, they may be faster at a very short distance, but under the normal specification of what would be used in any moderate size house it's still maxed out at the exact same thing. Back with cat five E.
Speaker 3:So and so what's important about the speed? Why does that matter?
Speaker 2:well, you know there's a couple things going on there. You know, when you wire with fiber, one of the big things is now you have zero interference. You know, because anytime you send electrical signals it's going to be interfered with other electrical things. Fiber is blinking light, so you have zero interference, which means whatever your speed is, it's always that speed. It never slows down, whereas in some situations things like turning on hot tub heat and those kinds of things can actually slow down your network.
Speaker 2:But more importantly, to get to your question about speed and how important speed is, an actual 4K movie with audio is 18 gigabits per second, and so when we think about it, what's really happening is that service providers are filtering down all this content and compressing it to try and get it into your house, because you just don't have a fast enough speed. So we know that our speeds are going to go faster and we at IFP are looking at it as that. Okay, if we know these speeds are going to go faster, and we know they're coming, why wouldn't you want to have your home prepared for those faster speeds?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's something that our customers hear the buzzwords whether it's 4k now, there's 8k out there and what in English kind of. What that really means for them is that you need a bigger pipe, you need more speed to be able to accommodate the new technology coming in your house. So fiber is kind of like a bigger pipe, if you will, that allows more speed down it than a category cable would. Is that correct?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I would say it's actually slightly different in that the problem with category cable is that, like I was saying, it's constantly changing. There's a new version, then a new version, then a new version. And at my integration company we would even have it where, when we design the project, between when we trim the project, a new version of cable, so to speak, became standard and this project that we started three years earlier now basically had that older cable fiber it. Fiber is fiber. It doesn't change. It's the exact within. You know my new details. It's the exact same thing today as it was 20 years ago.
Speaker 3:so by having fiber in the walls now, whatever is coming, you never need to worry about your structure being wired with the wrong cable and, for those of you listening, that you'll see fiber being being pulled and trenched outside because the the providers uh, whoever that might be are actually using that as their backbone to get the service to your house. That's the exact same thing that we're talking about doing in your house or place of business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and to kind of touch on the speed side of it, one thing that I was pretty shocked by was I went to a internet service provider conference last March and they're talking about these distribution centers. So these are your main switching centers, you know, for your neighborhood, for a city, whatever it is. They're now designing those at 800 gigabit, which, to put that in perspective, most people's internet service into their home is between 0.5 and one gigabit.
Speaker 2:Oh my, that's a big jump. That is a big jump and the reason is because category cable maxed out. No matter what it was, it maxed out at 10. So they could never design anything beyond 10 with fiber, because you can go unlimited. Now they like boom, we're going to 800 and if you do a search now, there's actually product and now the future ones they're being designed at 1600 that's crazy, it's insane.
Speaker 2:And it's because this, you know, desire for more information, you know you talked about. You know why this is so important. Well, uh, we were recently down in florida and in flor, the cable boxes down there no longer have a coaxial style.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I've seen some of these, yeah.
Speaker 2:These new cable boxes. They just have a network jack on them. So no longer do you have this. You know cable coming into your home, literally a cable or a dish on the side of your house. Um, I know in Idaho, if you have a network jack where your TV is of your house, um, I know in Idaho, if you have a network jack where your TV is, direct TV will not Mount a dish on the side of your house. They will take your network jack and plug it into the back of their direct TV box and you will just get your direct TV over the internet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're seeing very few boxes here. Uh, in our market there's very few. Everything is streaming. The cable companies have their streaming app. So it's just another reason why it's important, because streaming equals speed needed. So the more streaming, the more speed you need and the higher quality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and as we add on, you know, more baby monitors, more security cameras, more video doorbells. These are all network devices. These are all things, and people don't think anything about adding another device and that puts more and more load on that network is it?
Speaker 3:is it true? I'm pulling this out of, out of the air here. But is is it true that the average consumer now has somewhere in the upper 50 to 100 network devices?
Speaker 4:higher. There's no, it's not the higher higher number of devices that are on the network than that. It's like 156, I believe it's 156 average.
Speaker 3:So if you, if you just are bored beyond belief at home tonight, just go over. Think about all the different phones, ipads, gaming systems, appliances, tvs, like every year irrigation system yeah, all the stuff that's touching your network. It's, it's a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember years ago this would be a good, solid, probably six years ago control for published a study at the time, If I remember correctly, it was 61 devices was the average number in an American home on their network. And it's so funny because so many times I've been like no, no, that's not at all true. And then I think in my house I'm like, okay, let me add all this up Smartphones and TVs and smartwatches and iPads and laptops, and another laptop and a refrigerator, and then your dishwasher and irrigation, you know your wireless antennas, and you start going, oh my gosh, like I'm one of those people.
Speaker 3:I'm one of those people. And, by the way, just to be clear, even if your device is wireless like a lion's share of them are phones or whatever you still have to have the wired backbone inside the house to provide the speed to the access point, which then sends the signal wirelessly to whatever you're talking about. So it's still critical.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we kind of joke that we got a joke that when people have told us, oh yeah, well, you know what, everything's going wireless, so no one will ever, you know, need a single wire, and we kind of say, well, okay, that's like the argument that was used, that when the computer word processor was invented we would not need any printers. So it's like no, because those wireless devices need antennas and those antennas need wires to them. And as our speed, oh sorry.
Speaker 4:No, no, no. Finish your, finish your thought.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you know, those antennas need wires to them and as our desire, as you were saying, as our desire for speed goes up, we have to have more antennas to be able to create those faster speeds. Which is the other thing most people aren't aware of, that this desire is going to create more and more antennas and therefore more and more wires.
Speaker 4:So Eric and Mark. Eric is actually visiting us because he's going to walk a job with us in the morning.
Speaker 2:I know we're actually putting this product into a customer's home.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Full circle, from friends to you know business. What's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 2:Vendors.
Speaker 4:Business associates.
Speaker 2:I I don't. I don't necessarily see as a vendor relationship, but maybe I'm a little bit biased. You're technically a vendor, we're nicer to you than than we are the other vendors.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wow.
Speaker 2:We might want to chop that out Andrew, and I would say that also, being you know, I view a very strong friendship with Mark that you know. It goes much deeper in the vendor relationship, because if I did not stand 100% behind what we're doing, then this wouldn't be a conversation. It would be like oh yeah, I'm going to go sell that to someone else, but when, when it's a long time personal friend, um, the belief's got to be deep.
Speaker 3:And we may cut this part out, but I originally met air. Do you remember how I met you?
Speaker 2:I thought it was in my process class.
Speaker 3:It was at your process class, michelle. I sat in a Cedia class, probably paid for it, and sat in a Cedia class on process, which we never talk about here, ever no.
Speaker 4:No, so you're the culprit. You're the culprit.
Speaker 1:You're our process starter.
Speaker 3:Thank you. I went up after the class, probably nervous. Oh my God, I'm going to talk to the teacher yeah. Yes, that is. That was a long time ago.
Speaker 1:That was. I think that was.
Speaker 3:Dallas.
Speaker 2:I think so it was. It was a long time ago.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember that was I. I thoroughly love those classes. That was so much fun to try and being so passionate about process that you know anytime I can help a business in that area, it's it just makes me giddy.
Speaker 1:So, Andrew, I think we're about ready to transition into well before before why don't we get into exactly what you guys, what you're bringing to the project tomorrow, why you're here and what exactly you're doing there?
Speaker 4:Just high level.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, um, well, you can cut this that.
Speaker 3:I have no idea what's going on, but actually you sent a bill of material, so I think you do okay at some point, but for the most part I argue that one of the original design intents of ifp was to make it incredibly simple.
Speaker 2:So I mean, I mean, I need to check. I think our current SKU count is at eight. So you know, there's there's not a lot of variance. So it makes it quite easy that you know, basically the pre-wired, every location is exactly the same, and then when you trim it out, you put one of three products in and you're done. So, yeah, so basically, it's building out the data network in this home. I presume it's a home. It is Okay. Yeah, so building out this data network in a home and have the entire data network operate over fiber.
Speaker 4:Okay, awesome. So this home will be future-proofed.
Speaker 2:Truly future-proofed yes.
Speaker 4:Truly IFP future-proofed.
Speaker 2:IFP future proof, ifp future proof. Well, and like I was saying earlier, there's a couple of really good things that make me very confident about our solutions, and one of those is that it is industry standard stuff. The fiber is industry standard. The fiber translation that we're doing is industry standard. So what we hope in the near future is that other manufacturers will see what we're doing, join our mission and be able to start coming out with transceivers, our little in wall transceivers that do far more than what ours do because the pipe is plenty big. So companies like AV pro will be able to make a transceiver and that will be able to plug directly into that ifp backbone and deliver 10 gig ethernet packetized video rs. You know literally everything you want within that one plate, all over a single strand of fiber awesome yeah, very great.
Speaker 1:All right, you ready to get into some fun topics? So we like to gauge um our guest interest a little bit, get to know you a little more.
Speaker 2:So Well, I am married so.
Speaker 1:We're going to stick to music preferences only oh my gosh. So who is your favorite band artist? What kind of music are you into?
Speaker 2:Sarah Brellis is my favorite, oh, favorite song. Well, there's a lot of songs I like by her. My favorite song I guess to transition slightly is I Was here by gosh. I just lost their name Dang it country group. I can't help you.
Speaker 3:I don't know I Was here. Lost their name, Dang it country group. I can't help you. I don't know I was here, dang it.
Speaker 2:We'll have to look it up, and then I need to look it up, and then you can blend it back in Magic Fetton. Yeah, because they had to change their name, so I think I'd remember it, lady Antebellum.
Speaker 4:Yeah, lady Antebellum.
Speaker 1:Oh, I haven't heard that name in a while.
Speaker 3:On my honor. I was literally going to say Lady Antebellum, I am dead shit. That was totally. I pulled it out.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that yeah, so I'm a big guy that believes in you know that there's a lot more going on than just us people sitting on this spinning thing in the middle of space. And so Sara Bareilles talks a lot about relationships and about love and about that side of things, and I'm a very, very blessed man to have a wife of 23 years that appreciates me. Maybe it's tolerates, but I like to think of it as appreciating.
Speaker 4:I have to ask a tangent, because you just went down the whole love thing Like what is your astrological sign, eric oh?
Speaker 1:good question, taurus.
Speaker 4:You're a taurus interesting, you know. You're born in cinco de mayo.
Speaker 2:I'm single tomorrow.
Speaker 4:It's cool yeah, interesting I don't hear many men talk about you know relationships and being interested in that or that. They listen to Sarah Bareilles.
Speaker 1:They usually cancel.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I would. At my core, I'm a softie and I've, like I said, been incredibly blessed with the woman that I met, and so it's been really, really neat from that regard and yeah, that's awesome, we both have twins.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, you have twins too, we do, yeah.
Speaker 2:Ours are 17 now. Oh, you have twins too.
Speaker 3:Yep, ours are 17 now. Oh very cool. Are they seniors? Do they become seniors in high school or juniors?
Speaker 2:Well it depends on which one.
Speaker 3:They were born so far apart that they're in different classes.
Speaker 2:No, they're a very. You know, my wife and I joke because we have three kids and they're only two and a half years apart between all three.
Speaker 3:So you have twins and Irish twins.
Speaker 2:Just about yeah, and so what we were hoping was that there would be some commonality between the three of them, and there is absolutely zero. They share nothing. You would think they came from three different sets of parents Wow.
Speaker 2:So our twins, our son Henry he's got a heart of gold. He's like the sweetest, nicest, most considerate person you'll ever meet and he is so incredibly calm and, you know, prays regularly and meditates regularly and completely at peace with so much and meditates regularly and completely at peace with so much. And his twin, our daughter Lexi. She's at the other end and she is Hello Lexi.
Speaker 2:One of the things I absolutely love about my daughter is that there is nothing in her about I'm a woman, I can't do that. That's no way in her mindset. So she determined that she didn't like high school. So she determined she's just gonna graduate early. Well, the school she was at wouldn't let her. So she came to us and said I found another school that will. So I'm gonna take my junior and senior year at the same time so I can graduate early, because I just am ready to get on with my life. And so we said, oh okay, well, let's talk about school. And she goes no, no, I already have my school, I already picked it. Here it is, and I already paid the tuition and I'm ready to go, and, by the way, I'm graduating in May, and on and on, and yeah. So she didn't ask. Oh she, she tells us everything.
Speaker 3:She came to us. She came to us two weeks ago with her graduation announcement and said oh, by the way, here you go.
Speaker 2:I went and got pictures done. Here's my picture. Here's my graduation announcement. It's on this day. Can I do it in the house? I'm like, well, I, I mean, I guess you are do kind of live here so yeah. So then she's moving out and she's gonna move out in august and attend boise state in the fall, um when she's 17 years old, bronco yeah, when she's 17 years old and she's just like it, you just don't get in her way as long as you're not in her way.
Speaker 2:She will be very, very considerate to you and your youngest. Um, well, those are. The twins are, yeah, yeah, so our other one's older. Oh, oh, I'm sorry, yeah, oldest, yep, so it's the other way around. So we had our, and that's why, um, and you can cut all this, but just from a funny side. That's why, and you can cut all this, but just from a funny side, that's where, when we had our first, I come from three, my wife came from two, and so my wife's like I really want to have three kids. And I said, no, no, we're having two, three does not work. So you had both.
Speaker 1:So I argued, I'm like three does not work.
Speaker 2:There are no restaurants set up for five people. There are no chairlifts for five people there are no chairless for five.
Speaker 1:There are no hotels for five people.
Speaker 2:There are no comfortable two-row cars for five people.
Speaker 3:No, very valid because I'm analytical right. Has anyone ever said that eric's an engineer?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah so, um, yeah. So then when we went to go and have our second child, we went in for the ultrasound and the nurse is like oh my gosh, and we're like what? And she goes you're having twins. And I can still remember my wife looked up at me and goes huh, I win. So she got her three miraculously, and so again so you still haven't told us about your oldest, sorry so our oldest yeah so our oldest is jack.
Speaker 2:Uh, he attends university of idaho. He's a vandal up in northern idaho, um and uh, going down the science route. Uh, maybe an engineer, which of course I'd I'd love that, but he's very, very analytical, um, and just unbelievably smart, um. He has I always tease him and that I'm like jack. I just wish I had your intelligence. It would have made my life so much easier and we'll definitely cut this part.
Speaker 3:This is I just wanted to ask this question, was he? He wasn't there during that whole.
Speaker 2:No, no, the big yeah, he just started in january okay, okay so yeah he went to a local school in the fall and then transferred up there in january.
Speaker 3:So yeah, that unfortunate. You guys know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4:No clue, as usual.
Speaker 3:There was four students at Idaho that were killed in their apartment.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, Cole Berger. Yeah, I was just going to say. I thought that was his name.
Speaker 3:I don't know if he's officially been convicted.
Speaker 4:No, he's still on trial.
Speaker 3:Still on trial In Boise? Oh, really, yeah, he's been. I know he's still on trial. Still on trial, yeah, in boise. Oh really, yeah, that, yeah, it was all over.
Speaker 2:And I I remember seeing that it was so sad, very sad.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so so your son wasn't there?
Speaker 2:no, no he just started there in january and this was. It's been a couple of years now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, two years ago now two and a half years ago, so yeah all right, okay, well, eric, there it goes Well. Thank you for joining us. We really appreciate you being on here with us today, and if our listeners wanted to hear more about your company or get in contact with you, how can they do so?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, obviously. Our website, ifpconnectcom. Bunch of information on there. They can also go. We all, of course, have a YouTube channel. Um, at IFP, connect right there on youtubecom. And, yeah, we'd love to love to help anybody out in their projects. Or, you know, like sound vision, help companies build better networks.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:Well, thanks again for joining us, yeah.
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