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Simplifying Life Through Technology
Wireless vs Wired Security & Surveillance
On this episode of “SoundVision Tech Talks,” Mark, Zach, and Andrew sit down to discuss the Difference Between Wireless and Wired Security and Surveillance.
Whether you're looking to install a brand-new system or upgrade an existing one, we break down everything you need to know to make the best decision for your home or business.
We'll explore the advantages of wired systems—known for their superior resolution, privacy, and reliability. Wired setups allow for crystal-clear footage, even at a distance, and offer continuous recording without overloading your Wi-Fi bandwidth. We discuss how customization options with wired systems can focus on what matters most, while ensuring your system is seamlessly integrated into your home, with no visible wires or bulky equipment. Often, cameras are strategically placed so you don't even notice them, especially on exterior placements. For homeowners looking for maximum security and performance, wired systems are the ultimate choice, providing long-term solutions for data storage and protection.
We also recognize the growing appeal of wireless security systems. Wireless options offer flexibility and convenience, making them a great choice for homeowners who need fast, easy installation. These systems often come with features like mobile monitoring, portability, and simple add-ons. We cover the benefits of wireless security, such as the ability to easily move cameras or install them in remote areas without the need for wiring. Wireless systems are ideal for those who prioritize convenience. However, we’ll also highlight some of the key limitations, such as battery life and how wireless devices can strain your Wi-Fi bandwidth, causing slower speeds or lags.
Whether you’re securing a primary residence or a vacation property, this episode will equip you with the knowledge to choose the right system based on your needs and lifestyle. We provide a balanced look at both options, helping you weigh the pros and cons, so you can make an informed decision that suits your space.
From AI analytics and virtual masking to the debate between continuous vs. motion-only recording. By the end of this episode, we hope you'll have all the knowledge you need to confidently choose the right security or surveillance system for your home or business. Tune in to SoundVision Tech Talks and discover the possibilities for your perfect home or business setup!
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Speaker 2:No, but that's a McDonald's and a Chick-fil-A staple. You got to throw a pickle and I'm here for it. I mean, I'll get down with a Big.
Speaker 1:Mac, Don't get me wrong. Oh no, I love the big macs.
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Speaker 1:I think we had this big argument in our family here the last month about French fries who has the best? No, oh, mcdonald's was clearly number one by everybody. So we just, we just excluded that and we went with who is second and third. So, who is second and third in fries? Second and third in fries, assuming that McDonald's is number one. Fast food no, not necessarily.
Speaker 2:No, it could be anywhere. Five Guys with the vinegar.
Speaker 1:We talked about Five Guys. It did not make our. It was there. We actually said they give you too many, what?
Speaker 3:They fill the bag. You can never have too many fries. I'll tell you a funny story with Five Guys. The first time I ever went with alicia out of five guys um you know, we had no idea what the situation was and she's like can I get five large orders of fries? They're like are you sure? You sure you want that and she's like yeah, I mean they just stole the bag they brought out three bags of just fries.
Speaker 1:We had french fries for like a good month, five guys. The problem is the buns. The buns never they fall apart. They're not enough for the burgers.
Speaker 2:I don't frequent that place either, but they have good fries. Okay, five guys fries.
Speaker 1:What's another one. If you had second and third, what would you?
Speaker 2:Wendy's dipped it in a chocolate frosty.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's the only way to you. Wendy's dipped it in a chocolate frosty. Yes, that's the only way to eat a Wendy's fry Were you there.
Speaker 1:You had to be there at the dinner when we went up to Napa. Remember when we were at that really long table yeah, we were at the one end down here and I don't know where you were sitting, but they had this thing and the lead engineer for James, the lead engineer was there. The lead engineer was there and he was like, hey, uh, let's share. I don't know. So some secret or something. That's weird. I don't remember exactly what he said, but we got to him and the guys like the guys like kind of nervous, and he goes um, so I go to, I go to in and out, I have, I have this thing of, I have this like whatever thing that I do by myself. I'll like go to in and out and I'll, I'll get fries and I'll get a shake and I'll dip the fries in the shake, and that's exactly what we're all like. Looking at him and going yeah, he's like right.
Speaker 1:He's like you do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody does that a mental breakout moment for that guy. He realized that he's normal you're the lead engineer here really okay, all right.
Speaker 1:So what are we talking about?
Speaker 2:well, it's friday, uh, that's good friday, yeah, friday, it's friday so we talked last week about just come up with the topic of what's come up in your life in the past week, or unless andrew has a specific topic we just had a topic right there fries, fries mcrib and yeah, I mean I don't go, yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 1:And then I I mean yes, so uh, okay, cool, what happened in the last week?
Speaker 2:like now this is my wife talking. I want to have like the doorbell and like some cameras where, like when somebody rings the doorbell, we get alerted, or somebody walks through the yard, oh yeah, we get alerted, like like some friends of ours that live in the same neighborhood. And I was like, okay, we can totally do that. In her mind, what they have is a ring system and not throwing that under the bus at all. It's a great system. We generally aren't advocating for that type of wireless or too many of those wireless style cameras, just because of the way they kind of eat through and chew up your, your wifi bandwidth. So I told her I was like, yeah, yeah, I plan on doing it, but I'm going to do it with like a wired surveillance system. And she was like, well, what's?
Speaker 3:the difference.
Speaker 2:You know. So then I'm. Well, what's the difference? So then I'm selling my wife on what we call surveillance versus, I think, what the DIY world considers surveillance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a couple places to go with that. But on the doorbell thing, we've got one at our house that is wired and I've done some wireless ones down at some beach condos. And the wireless ones, I didn't even know about the wi-fi bandwidth, I didn't even think about that. They worked fine. But the batteries like unless it's your house and you're right there all the time, and and I say batteries, most of them are usb, you know, rechargeable. There's not an actual battery that goes in there, but the. You had to do that so frequently. Yeah, I mean, like every probably two months you had to charge that thing and if it's remote, like that's not easy, right, uh, you know, you had to tell somebody how to do it or whatever. But to your point, zach, the surveillance thing is interesting. I find that people outside of our industry think that alarm and surveillance go together like all the time Correct, correct. And it's crazy because they almost never go together, correct.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you know, in our world it, quite honestly, we we talk with clients about why, as a company process, we don't combine them. I mean now, look, we're doing an alarm alarmcom based alarm. You know we could do the alarmcom doorbell camera like that. That happens. You can add a camera too, which is which is fine in most homes, you know. The downside to it is, you know, privacy possibly. You know, if you're doing a cloud storage, you know privacy possibly. Uh, you know, clap, you're doing a cloud storage. Oh my gosh, um, you know you want to make sure you understand what's happening. So if you're, if you are sensitive to privacy, like I don't know that, I would give that a hundred percent passing grade from a privacy standpoint, especially the ones, the inside ones.
Speaker 2:I know we're not talking about that per se, but inside, outside whatever I mean, you know you could have one overlooking your pool. Well, absolutely, I don't know what some folks might enjoy wearing different things at their pools than others are not wearing Exactly. Uh, so the point I was trying to see, that's what's so?
Speaker 1:that's what's crazy, though, because you do it for this reason. Like the inside one is usually the baby cam is where it starts, right, you want to see the baby or the nursery or whatever, which is awesome, and then, and then you then all of a sudden, they start like in other places and the pool's another one where it's. Well, you know, people could come from the lake and could come into our pool, and then something happens. We want to have that, which makes perfect sense, but then you've got the rave that you throw right, is it not a rave?
Speaker 2:anymore. Is there, no, is there been a word that? Substitutes for rave no, I just think it's funny that you use the word rave is there like people got glow sticks hanging out of their mouths necklaces, pacifiers anyways, I'm sorry you.
Speaker 1:You were saying your point was and I, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what I was trying to explain to Allison is privacy resolution and Wi-Fi bandwidth right. And I was like, hey, granted, be hardwired cameras, poe back to a local MVR, not cloud storage Power over ethernet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, power over ethernet, no high voltage needed. That would allow us to have that local storage. So privacy is guaranteed, right, and we're able to pick and choose and have more options on the camera color, the camera style Is it a bullet, is it a turret, is it a PTZ? Pan tilt, zoom, um, and then you've got options to pick resolution. You know how much detail do I want in this. If I need to recall data, you know if you're, if you're going with a wireless camera, they look great when you look at them in full. I mean, they're certainly going to be high def. If not, I'd have to do some research. But I believe most of them probably advertise a 4K type resolution, which is great when you're looking at full screen. But when you try to zoom into that recorded content, to pull a license plate off of a truck that pulled up across the street and got out and did something nefarious, chances of getting that detail are pretty slim.
Speaker 1:Unless you have the PTZ.
Speaker 2:Or any camera that has enough pixel density to be able to zoom in, blow it up.
Speaker 2:Everyone's taking a photo on their phones. Phones are great now, but older ones aren't so good. You take a photo and you start zooming into it and you can see that image clarity begin to degrade. Well, camera's going to do the same thing, and the the the pixel density of that camera is, just like on your phone is what's going to allow you to zoom in from a further distances and still have have information that doesn't look pixelized, and you know and that's a good point, that that is one of the differences in using a DIY product and using a professional type product like we use.
Speaker 1:There are certainly some color options and style options, but there's also the resolution and privacy, and privacy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know, now you can get off into the world of okay, take all those things you know. Now you can get off into the world of okay, take all those things you know what's like. Arguably one of the most important things in a home, other than having a roof over your head, is why is wifi?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Nowadays we say to clients all the time I would imagine if I pulled a hundred listeners, maybe five or five, if I pulled our five listeners, I mean 90% of people would probably live 10 days, five days, without hot water than they would without wifi. Now I don't go so far as to take electricity away, but um.
Speaker 1:I tell you it would be interesting. I don't know about five days, but if you said one day without hot water or wifi, I bet you that wifi would be. Would be, oh, that's easy. 50 to 180 to one, I think so I think it's 100 to zero it might be one day.
Speaker 2:One day I bet, if you went a week, it's 75.
Speaker 1:Yeah, would go without oh see, I would be on the 25th of a week. I have a shower issue that I I so. Cold showers are good for you, by the way, so yeah, I man that's. That's a cold shower struggle for five seconds.
Speaker 2:That's what I do. Yeah, At the end it's different to do the plunge thing.
Speaker 1:What you've done this both yeah. Okay, that's different, like the plunge bath. Yeah, but before you do a plunge bath.
Speaker 2:if you're in a public space, you have to do the shower first, so a good way to prep yourself for the plunge is to take a cold shower.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, then the plunge isn't so cold. Exactly.
Speaker 2:Gotcha. So I mean, but it's Wi-Fi Like if I'm putting, we've had clients before, hey, I've got seven or eight, you know, ring or nest cameras around my house. Why is my wifi so slow? I can tell you why. Yeah, that product's great. It's a great DIY product it was. It was built for the masses. It's awesome, but it has its limitations. You know, I wouldn't put more than two or three, maybe four, depending on what your network backbone and wifi speed was to begin with. I wouldn't do more than that in my own home.
Speaker 1:Well, what's interesting would be to take a poll of how many people do a DIY camera option but a commercial grade network option. So what I would think is that anybody that's going to do one, two, three or four of these uh diy cameras have also done the, you know, the, the mesh network themselves. Well, 100 so, which, again, is fine, but that's one of the differences is well, especially when some of those products are branded under the same manufacturer.
Speaker 2:Sure I'll leave the name out, but sure our wi-fi products with a name on them, that mesh network price with a name, that also have a indoor wireless camera with the same name on it and so they interface nicely.
Speaker 1:Very well, setup is is easy, but the but, the. What you give up is now, of a sudden you get buffering, and you get bandwidth issues and you get much slower internet speed.
Speaker 2:If I'm in a you know know 2,500 square feet, maybe 3,000 or less, fairly simple footprint, that's probably a great solution. If I want to do two or three cameras. If I'm in 5,000 square feet for 4,000 square feet and up, you know larger scale footprint and I'm needing four, six, eight surveillance locations.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't do it Well, and the other thing is they do have settings in there for, like, masking or, or you know, recording only at certain times or with motion or whatever. But the majority, again the majority of people that install that as a DIY, all they care is the ease of it, correct, so they just set it up and go. They don't even think about going in there to do any of those settings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they just want to log in and see a live view. Amazon leave the package on the front porch right. We're going to go in on a more professional, non-diy system that isn't throttling back our wifi speed, that doesn't have, you know, privacy issues, that does give us solutions from color style, uh, uh, image quality. For that ability, as I spoke about a moment ago, to be to be able to zoom in and pull out detail, um do we VLAN those?
Speaker 1:Do you know?
Speaker 2:I don't even know you can it's not necessary on all projects, but but you absolutely could.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've put some on VLANs before, so VLAN is a virtual local area network where inside your network, you can actually segregate things so that they don't affect other things. So you can have, like, your streaming devices on one VLAN and your camera system on another VLAN and you're sort of keeping them apart from each other so that they don't throttle back. That's another benefit of having a professional duo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and back to your point of the commercial side. So if you're set, we're going to go into that NVR and we're going to set up areas where it does record. A perfect example is a camera facing your front yard. Well, you might want to record everybody that steps on your property, but not every car that drives down your road.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:To extend the length of recorded content that you have sitting on that MVR. We do a lot of homes on the lake. We'll generally draw a virtual masking line about 10, 15 feet off the dock or the shoreline and anything that happens within that line, in other words up close to the dock, on the dock, certainly the yard, would trigger a recorded event. But every ski boat, bass boat, pontoon boat that drives all around, that you can see if you log in and just view a live view right right we don't want those things to retreat to trigger a recording event, because we don't want to.
Speaker 2:You know, load up that nvr with storage. That's just nothing that you need to ever want to view.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and if you're visualizing it, imagine a picture and you just sort of paint part of it with like a gray marker and everything that's still in color. The camera catches and records Everything that's in the gray. You can still see it, but the camera doesn't record it. Correct, so you don't use up all that bandwidth and it's like Zach just said you don't have crap that you don't really care about. And the AI analytics are really good, oh yeah, yeah, I was actually going to bring that up earlier.
Speaker 2:Well, I've got a tree that's inside my yard and there's a bird feeder there and I don't want to record every bird. Well, I mean, we've got the ability, from an analytics standpoint, to not record any of those unwanted things. These systems are built and designed to understand what a human body looks like, what a vehicle looks like, and to be able to record based upon those activities not necessarily record a squirrel or a bird or a tree blowing in the wind or you know a tree blowing in the wind.
Speaker 1:Another plug for a professional design system is it's not a one-size-fits-all Like. We literally have a ton of options from recording to cameras, to colors, to styles, all the stuff we've talked about that.
Speaker 2:allow us to have something that's specific to what your need is, and interesting to point out because, as you just said, there are a ton of options. A ton of options for some folks might be a reason to not do it. This is just confusing. I just want to go buy the DIY thing, you know we have processes here.
Speaker 2:I mean there's a, there's a small handful and by handful I mean five or less questions that we can ask that get us right to the proper product for you and your home and it is customized to you. There's one or two or three questions we can ask on your preferences, on what you do and don't want to actually get recorded, and then we're off programming that system at a pretty high level. From a client standpoint. There's not a million questions or decisions for them to ask and answer. From a client standpoint, there's not a million questions or decisions for them to ask and answer. On our side, we have a lot of options to achieve the exact end goal, but I don't want folks to think that because of the options that are out there, that it scares them away from going to a more professional type surveillance system and sticking with the DIY stuff.
Speaker 1:Probably should have said this in the beginning. But one other thing about DIY that is claimed all the time I hear all the time is it's a wifi camera, it's a wireless camera. Still needs power, still needs power and that's that never seems to come up. That's the way that the camera communicates is what could be wifi or wireless, which isn't not, is not necessarily better or worse. Wired is always better if you can have it still, but you do need power. So it's not like you can just lick and stick this thing somewhere and it works.
Speaker 2:Yeah you want a camera uh, a wi-fi camera on your front porch or your driveway or whatever, then that's cool, but expect the you know a power. What you use to plug your phone in and charge it, expect to see one of those somewhere. So now the question is hey, I want this by the I want this by the floodlight on the outside of the garage so I can catch the front uh yeah, yeah and the driveway up the streets is a pretty common location for a camera.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool, we'll put this camera up there. Is there a power outlet at your house beside your floodlight?
Speaker 2:no, no, there's not, there's not so now you need to find the nearest power outlet. Is it in the garage, maybe? Well, how are we going to get a wire from outside to inside? That's pretty easy, but now we're probably going to be surface mounting some wire, maybe hiding it in wire mold. It just becomes a little weird. Now pull that thread through to like your front porch. Imagine your front porch for our five listeners. Uh, do you have a power outlet on your front porch to plug in a camera?
Speaker 1:probably not you know you have a tongue and groove ceiling. Yeah, it's all wood and stone and stone yeah, it gets weird when you start thinking about it like that you know, because that's the reality of of what they are andrew was going to do this job this weekend, and now hell no, I wouldn't be able to find the nearest outlet to start a while and market like you and I, one of our rental houses. We have a wireless camera on the front of the house I was looking at yesterday.
Speaker 2:It's. It's a small house, um, old house, yeah, um. I don't think that it's the type of house that our clients generally are going to reside in. But there happens to be an outlet on the front corner of the house where landscape, uh, transformers plugged in and, and, as luck would have it, there happens to be a little white downspout. So we mounted the camera by that downspout and ran the wire and zip, tied it to the back of the downspout and plugged it in. I don't see that being. I don't. That's not passing the smell test for the majority of our clients.
Speaker 1:No, and actually as a funny thing, I was there yesterday and I did not know we had a camera until yesterday. Yeah, I knew we did the alarm, but I didn't know we do the camera. I just, yeah, I saw it. So that was, that was interesting.
Speaker 2:But anywho, well, cool, well, this is, this was, this was good. So when I tried to get back to the original point and here's the funny part- the mcrib or the nope? No when my wife said, I think I want some cameras, like our friends oh, that's, oh yes that's right and and now I'm having to explain to her we're going to do that, but we're going to do it the way, the way I do it, the way sound vision does it, and not the diy route yeah, she was like hey, all I want to know, all I want to be able to do is see the front door.
Speaker 2:If the door, if somebody pulls in the driveway or walks up to the front door, I'm like got it, got you covered and oh, and that is so worth it too.
Speaker 1:We get a lot of um people trying to sell roofs, people trying to sell you know it used to be magazines years ago, but I don't. There's a lot, actually very surprising number of that, and they're always there, like dinner time too. So it's nice to nice to not have to go to the door Cause I'm a hermit and I'm a hermit.
Speaker 2:Playing in the next rave, yeah, so I don't know if this is a cool topic or not, but you know we talked about like this is what came up in my world yeah, technology this week and I thought it was cool no, I think that's uh actually very important because I feel like do a lot of people just is it convenience, is it the price tag?
Speaker 3:like why would someone choose? Like are you seeing more people choosing to just do the diy, or wouldn't you explain it to them? I?
Speaker 2:think our clients, I mean, you know, look, we're, we're not a diy company. There's reasons why we, a bunch of reasons why that diy world exists. There are way, I mean way, way, way, way more exponentially more people that live in a smaller home, apartment, townhome, condo in this country than there are middle to larger properties.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course. So that product has a place Right, no doubt about it. There's been a majority of my life that, had I wanted a surveillance system, it would have been the choice that I made. Um, but now, with where we live now and and, and what our needs are and what technology exists, well, and we fall more into that category of what our, what our clients fall into, and that's, you know, a truly secure um surveillance system with guaranteed privacy, quality image, if I need to recall data and options for the aesthetic and how it's going to blend in. I mean, look, we're we're having conversations with our clients about what is the color. You know wherever this camera is going to be mounted. It's going to be in the soffit of this house on the front, but it's going to be on the vertical wall on the back. Okay, well, what's that material? Because we want to make sure we're honing in the color, the physical color of the housing of the camera to match as much as it can to the surfaces being mounted to. So there's a lot of thought.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and let's be clear.
Speaker 1:The clientele that we're typically working with are paying for. With DIY, there's always some little thing you've got to tweak. There's always some little thing you got to tweak. There's always a little problem. There's always a little software update. Yeah, and and you know people that do DIY are into that Like they're okay knowing that they're going to have that inconvenience. Folks that we are typically talking about here are paying for convenience. They're paying for, uh, security, uh that they feel comfortable with, and they're paying for convenience. They're paying for security that they feel comfortable with and they're paying for the consistency that this thing is going to constantly, you know is going to work. You know, 95 to 98% of the time there's technology, there's always could be something. But and that's one of the reasons we advocate for the wired cameras as opposed to wireless because they're just more reliable over a really long period of time. Any one day, they're probably both fine.
Speaker 2:Well, total tangent. Uh, and maybe this is a topic for another day, but there's other things in your house that work on wifi too. There's some companies that make security systems that are wifi.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh no contract super low monitoring. Oh yeah, that's right, that's right so.
Speaker 2:so usually I'll tell folks this does your wifi ever go out of your house?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, cause I you know, no one is ever happy with the amount of times their wifi goes out from from the provider. Right, that's what I'm talking about, like your ISP, like hey, I won't name a name my internet provider. The internet is out in our neighborhood right now. It'll be back on in 30 minutes, or maybe it's longer, maybe it's five minutes. So my question is is okay the with the frequency that your internet goes out? Are you also okay with your security and your surveillance systems going?
Speaker 2:offline at the same time and at the same frequency. They're like, no, like. If I lose internet, I don't want that to mean that I don't have security.
Speaker 3:Well, that's what a wifi based security system?
Speaker 2:means. You know, I don't want, when I lose wifi, that I lose surveillance. Well, that's what is going to happen. So, you have to. People have the jobs to educate and then let a client make an informed decision, Cause some folks might go. Yeah, I'm completely fine with that. My internet never goes out, I'm cool. Um, and that's perfectly fine too. We just want to make sure everybody knows what they're getting into before they make a purchase.
Speaker 1:And, with that being said, if there is any kind of topic, we're really trying to come up with topics that are relevant and that people want to know more about. You know, you're out there researching it or you go, man, what is the latest thing in technology or automation or whatever? That's what we really want to provide, so any kind of comments would be greatly appreciated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, reach out on social media. One last question about, like the bandwidth the storage of your security system Is there? There's a limit, I'm assuming you mean the surveillance system?
Speaker 1:Yes, surveillance system?
Speaker 3:Yes, your cameras say your front door feed. Is there a limit to how much storage of great can be held? And when you reach that, what do you?
Speaker 2:do. There are some, some calculators out there that'll give you uh, based upon how large the hard drive is that you have built into that unit. So our standard would be a minimum four terabyte hard drive, um, and if you're putting four or eight cameras on a four terabyte hard drive you can record 24, seven and get you know. I'd have to run this through the calculator, so I'm going to spit by here, probably get a solid 30 days.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Um, and Now? What happens when it's full? Now, if you say, okay, well, I only want to record in these areas that we've masked off for motion, then our amount of days of recording just grows right. What happens when it's full? Well, when it's full, it's a one in, one out video. Then, on average, uh, starting that 31st day or around there, uh, the next minute, second or event that it records, it kicks the oldest one out.
Speaker 3:Is that, okay, it's been a while, since I set these up.
Speaker 1:But is that um selectable Like, can you? So I know that that's the default, but can you select once it's full, like stop and alert me or something um?
Speaker 2:question for freddie.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, because that's what I was wondering yeah, because like what if I?
Speaker 2:don't know why you'd want that, but it sounds like because you would get it every minute after it's full or however often it said it was going to notify you, yeah yeah, generally we want to give people a conservative um expectation for how much video they're going to have. Our, our contracts and designs usually state because we, we will run those through the calculator. So we'll. You know, the verbiage might be something like hey, based on 24, seven recording, with this amount of cameras and this size hard drive, you know you can expect 30 to 45 days If we go to motion only, you can expect this. So it gives people an expectation and we tell folks look, whichever one of these you select, um, you know, if you're the type of person that leaves your home like this is a true vacation home for you and you're only here once every six months, probably want to do motion only and probably want to do a large hard drive, because I don't want you to come here and find out and find that, find something wrong.
Speaker 2:And that happened five months ago. Uh, if it did, I want to have a hard drive and a system set up where you can go and recall that event.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm so glad you brought that up, because the practical thing is you want to have enough time uh uh, recording time so that if something happened. I was thinking the other end, like if you leave your house for vacation and you go away for two weeks or three weeks or whatever, when you come back and you find out something happened, you don't want it to be you know, it was overwritten.
Speaker 3:You want to have enough?
Speaker 1:time to cover that. But you made an even equally good point, and that's if this is at a second home beach home, mountain home, whatever and you're not there that often, then that's why the calculator is so important, because you want to have an idea of how often am I there. Okay, I want to have at least that much time. I want to make sure I'm set up to cover that much plus some extra plus some headroom there, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Good question, but that's what we would do. We'd run that through a calculator and give the client an expectation an expectation of what they would have.
Speaker 1:And that's another benefit to commercial grade surveillance system. You get the choice. I mean, clearly, as you add more time, it's more expensive, like certainly you got more hard drives. Basically hard drives are inexpensive, though. So yeah it's not really.
Speaker 2:It's not like a but eight, 12 terabytes of hard drive in a, in an MVR, for not. It's not a big difference between three and 12. Right, you know.
Speaker 3:So but hypothetically say, I've reached my capacity, but I'm like I don't want to get rid of that yet. I can add hard drive. Yeah, and oh yeah absolutely, so that can be added at any point. Yep Awesome.
Speaker 1:Cool Good.
Speaker 3:Good topic, boys. Yes, anything exciting happening this weekend. Guys, any big plans?
Speaker 1:There was the Andrew voice Any big plans no, not this weekend. No.
Speaker 2:I don't really know that I've got anything this weekend either. No daughter softball games no, that seems like they're. Oh, this neighborhood we moved into has a back to school bash that's fun where we ended up moving is like right beside like the clubhouse, the volleyball tennis pool, so they have a big smash burger food truck coming tonight.
Speaker 3:Oh, my gosh three hours of bounce up my son is he's oh, I bet he's so excited because eli can have french fries again.
Speaker 2:Well, he has another tournament coming up in Atlanta.
Speaker 1:Has he seen Vision Quest?
Speaker 2:That's a great movie, though. Matthew Modine, yeah, that's a good one. If he ever did that, I would not allow it to happen.
Speaker 1:Do they still have those?
Speaker 2:suits? Oh yeah, we had a kid cut four pounds in an hour and a half about two weeks ago. Do you still have those suits? Oh yeah, we had a kid cut four pounds in an hour and a half two weeks ago.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I'm talking about, Andrew Four?
Speaker 2:pounds in an hour and a half.
Speaker 1:They have these suits. They look like space suits. Well, in the movie they were silver and it's like you're zipping yourself in some rubber suit oh, it's a rubber suit.
Speaker 2:Well, it's effective. It's a rubber suit. Oh, it's a rubber suit. It's to make you sweat.
Speaker 1:Well, it's effective. It's not supposed to. It actually does so.
Speaker 2:Eli ended up being like two and a half pounds underweight, like under the limit that he could be, which is great, but he's got one more tournament that I think we can still keep him under 73.6 pounds. It's next month on the 21st 73.6.
Speaker 1:Very specific 0.6. Not 0.8.
Speaker 2:33.2 kilograms, I think, is what it is. Oh my gosh, kilos in the world of Brazilian. You know what I?
Speaker 1:realized and I know we got to go, but you know, what I realized is watching the Olympics and we're watching gymnastics, which is I'm not a huge gymnastics fan, but I was. I noticed, crazy me. It's not just one to 10 anymore. When did it go from being just one to 10 to like 15.67? That's in women's, oh, that's not in men's, correct? Is men still one to 10? I believe so, yeah. Why are they different?
Speaker 2:I have no idea why they're different, but they scored differently. I hope I'm not making a mistake on the men's and the Olympics. I know women's has like all of these and men's does too. All of these they call them, oh my God, what do they call it? It's like a bonus points based vert, a virtue, virtuous vert. I forget.
Speaker 1:Somebody that knows gymnastics, yeah.
Speaker 2:There's so many things that you know they get a degree of difficulty that the round starts off with. So a perfect yes, a perfect presentation of the event can only get you this high. But if you like, for example, uh, I think one level difficulty or whatever chapel was telling me, like one of simone biles, like the level of difficulty was like higher than anybody else that was doing that event, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the vault. It's the vault where she does that.
Speaker 2:She could literally like fall on her butt on her landing, stand back up and still beat the perfect, the perfect pull off of somebody doing something doing something else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and, and I want to know the people that that judge that that, like when they I I'm watching oh well, that's a half a point of that. How do they see all that stuff?
Speaker 2:they got different eyes than I do and I don't know about the, the um, gymnastics stuff. I know, like in cheerleading you have a panel of judges and different judges are judging different things, so you're not oh, you're only looking.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, that's gymnastics but they're.
Speaker 2:They're like, these are focused on the tumbling and these are focused on the stunts and these are focused on energy. I don't know.
Speaker 1:The other one is diving. The other one is diving Like that happens quick. I don't really care what the guys do or what what the do in diving.
Speaker 2:All that matters is how smooth do they go in the water splash, yeah, yeah, that's it. Nothing else matters. No, splash that's a 10, that's right, that's a 10, that's right.
Speaker 1:How did that guy not win? He didn't have a splash. No, I totally get it. He going feet first, just jump off feet first. Yeah, he wins. The other guy does like 12, 12 spins he splashed.
Speaker 2:I do have, uh uh, assistant coach. I got ro have a assistant coach. I got roped into assistant coach of my daughter's softball team. So our first practice this weekend, oh nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So 12, you girls softball.
Speaker 1:All right, good luck. Yeah, it'd be fun. Have fun with that. It'll be fun, all right. Well, until next time, see ya.
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